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Small thought regarding modern computer by HowXu Small thought regarding modern computer by HowXu
"Computers are no match for the average fourth-grader when it comes to creativity."


The Special Exhibition for Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni ([link] 1475-1564) in national museum of history in Taiwan had finally over in 2013/05/12. Luckily I was able to pay a visit by the end of April. In there, the museum display many Michelangelo's painting and sculpture including the best-known sculpture, David. Notably, it is not the authentic work. As a matter of facts, most of the exhibition weren't either. They are replicates by computer. According to the art history professor who suggest his class to pay a visit, the original works are too precious that it cannot transport abroad. But thanks to the modern technology, the computers are able replicate the exact same pieces of work in both painting and sculpture. Therefore, although we cannot witness the genuine works, we could still feel and touch Michelangelo's grandeur artistic soul.

This make me gasp in admiration of modern technology. The computers are like Superman that could do all sorts of different tasks for us. However, no one doesn't seems to give credit to the computers in the exhibition. In fact, I heard that some people even complain that those were just replicates and they want to see the genuine works. Personally, I think whether the works are genuine or not doesn't really matters in art appreciating. What's more important is whether the art touch your souls or not. But they did have a point though. Computer is nothing more than a tool. No matter how accurate and powerful it become, it does not create.
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Thanks to :icondcarrier: for providing the counter view:
" While computational creativity([link] ) is by and large nowhere near the level of an adult human, it still does some stuff. I'd say it's at least a match for the average fourth grader.

I've once seen a computer design a flying machine in soda constructor([link] ). This is impressive, considering the physics in that game clearly prohibit flying. The computer managed to take advantage of rounding errors to make the models do what should be impossible. Humans have managed to duplicate this feat, but only after seeing computers do it."

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PS. Thanks to :iconredheadstock: for the tech-brush "[link]" which I used for the background of 1st panel.
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I wonder if computer will be able to be creative someday...
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Leviathantamer Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
They can't create... yet. Computers are getting smarter, or rather WE'RE making them smarter.
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Ibeatganon4fun Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
I like how this piece seems to put the computer in a position where you'd feel sorry for it; like it's unjust that a little kid's simple doodles should get so much attention while the computer's efforts in recreating a masterpiece go unnoticed. Thus, discrediting the validity of the human element in favor of the synthetic life form's raw skill, and making the viewer consider how much they might take for granted the modern technology that makes their way of life possible.

At least... That's what I got from it, anyway.
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MERKLEYtheDRUNKEN Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
...sometimes I'm less creative than a fourth-grader too!
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:iconj151:
J151 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yea, no doubt.

No doubt.
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xuncu Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Student General Artist
In my art courses, I read quite a few essays by artists who despised digital reproductions, "because it's not authentic", "because it's not historied", "because I'm a smelly hippie luddite"!
I think it's more the third one: a lot of those hippies wanted some kind of world where identity was not a default, everyone was equal, and everyone could communicate. I think a lot of them hate technlogy because instead of it being the drugs and bunk new-age spiritualism spiritualism they wanted it to be, it HAS come to pass, but it turned out to be the internet, and people still wanted (and do) express their individuality even through anonimity.

There's a distrust of tehcnology because they hated "The Machine" (ie: society, civilization, and government), and they were unprepared when a new society rose within actual machines, leaving their "simple" lifestyle of hippie-ness as an obsolite relic of the past.
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xuncu Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Student General Artist
Pfft, the Louvre, where the Mona Lisa is kept... you can't see shit!

1. In a humidity-controleld box that's deep set in the wall
2. covered in glass
3. roped off another 5-10 feet
4. every other toruist in the city is there
5. with cameras
6. with flash on.

Too true, you get a better view just looking at her photo in her Wikiepdia entry: wasn't untill this past decade that I realized she is wearing a veil, and everyone I've pointed it out to didn't realize it.
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AnimeFreak40K Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
interesting commentary and counter-argument.
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:iconbossborotfinalattack:
As someone who studies programming (like you?), I can tell you that computers cannot create. Technically, we can make them seem like they "think". We can even make it seem like they take "inspiration" and make something out of that (would require A LOT of work but it is possible, the link you posted for example).

However, we cannot create a human brain (yet?) and we cannot make computers truly random. A computer's thinking must be very rigid and logical, going from simple true or false to complex but definite mathematics.
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kdawg1631 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013
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MERKLEYtheDRUNKEN Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
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:iconadmiralwolverine1:
admiralwolverine1 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
you do know computers are just as useful for creating art as other mediums right?
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:iconhowxu:
HowXu Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
Yes I do. Actually, as a digital painter, I think computer is a better tool for decreasing art cost, mass reproduction, fast modification and public disseminating. However, it still takes human's creative mind to do the creating.
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admiralwolverine1 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013
sry, i only skimmed the description the first time around. i was under the impression that oyu were the one complaining about there being replicates and not the actual pieces of art. sry about that ^^;
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SonicRainboom07 Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013   Digital Artist
I'm a heavy believer in computers, but I do understand what you mean. No super computer can work unless the men who thinks can make it work.
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zinen Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013
I think the inability to create and exist as a being is an engineering problem we can fix.
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KiwiJr Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013
Nice! :)
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:iconmattwo:
mattwo Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"No matter how accurate and powerful it become, it does not create."

You have. NO IDEA. How wrong that is.
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:iconhowxu:
HowXu Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013
Please do tell.

You're right that I have no idea. My opinion based on what I've learned and perceived. Therefore, it would highly result from Availability bias. More information and cognitive input would help to reduce the bias from occurring. I would love to know more about computers' creativity.
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williamcll Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
Current computers are not powerful enough to reach the point of creating something original. A computer can create only from knowledge it has received (such as your input).

On the other hand, artificial intelligence would be able to do the kind of creativity that mattwo states.
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mattwo Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Computers can be used as a tool of creation, several programs are dedicated to art and video making and editing, and the process of making computer games and movie magic is usually completely digital these days and even video games are typically 100% made on a computer.
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:iconhowxu:
HowXu Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013
Yes, I agree with you. However this doesn't controvert my opinion though.

As you said "Computers can be used as a tool of creation". So we still consider it as tool. The one who does the creating is the artist who use the tool. Although the arts are made on a computer, computers are only responded to the artist's command, therefore, the credit of creating goes to the artist. For example, I drew digital painting with my computer. We can say my computer help me with completing my works, but we can't say the computer create my works.

I think if you could suggest the evidences and examples of computers creating things without people's operating or instructions would better strengthen your argument.
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:iconmattwo:
mattwo Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well then you're looking at the situation you explained the wrong way then. Computers themselves cannot create, neither can museums.
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:iconhowxu:
HowXu Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
Indeed, then we had a common consensus that my conclusion:

"No matter how accurate and powerful it become, it does not create."

was right. At least for the present day.
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mattwo Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But as I said you're looking at it the wrong way.

There is no computer vs actually going with that logic. Hell, art tools don't create either. It just makes it just that much less relevant.
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:iconhowxu:
HowXu Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
I am confused about "looking at it the wrong way" though. My description are based on

1. Computer is a tool
2. Tools do not create, people do.

Therefore, my opinions are all tally with your arguments. Would you please tell by which part that you think my opinion is different from yours?
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ProfessionalPuppy Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013
This reminded me of this quote: "A creative adult is the child who survived"
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:icondcarrier:
DCarrier Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013
"Therefore, although we cannot witness the genuine works,"

I disagree. The genuine work is not the materials it's made of. That's not impressive. Nobody cares about that. The genuine work is what they shaped the material into, which is what they had at the museum.

"No matter how accurate and powerful it become, it does not create."

Yes it does. You just went to the wrong museum. While computational creativity is by and large nowhere near the level of an adult human, it still does some stuff. I'd say it's at least a match for the average fourth grader.

I've once seen a computer design a flying machine in soda constructor. This is impressive, considering the physics in that game clearly prohibit flying. The computer managed to take advantage of rounding errors to make the models do what should be impossible. Humans have managed to duplicate this feat, but only after seeing computers do it.
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